EKKENTROS FORUM
The Matter: Report of the proceedings of the discussion held on 11-8-09 (Tuesday)
Venue: Residence of Dr. Babu Ravindran, Edavalath House, Tellicherry-670103
Coram: Eight members attended. Dr. Sadanandan could not attend as he was not well.
Subject: Facts in Unbiased Free Thinking.
Dr. Mohammed Abdulla: I would like to raise an important point that occurred to me. It can be elaborated later if necessary. That is the basic question whether free thinking is at all possible unless the mind itself is free? I find that the mind has to be first freed of all thoughts before free thinking can become possible. For that, meditation would be necessary. Generally, chanting of Mantra may help to reduce the flow of thoughts that disturbs and clears the mind to make it free. Mantra has got that capacity.
Prof. Sankarankutty: Thought is not separate from environment. Is there any thought at all unconnected with environment?. I mean the environment, internal as well as external. Therefore thought is always there. The mind is never free of it.
Dr. Thomas: It is generally an autocratic mind which has adamant thoughts that always wins. Stalin was an autocrat while Trotsky was democratically minded. Stalin could manipulate and kill Trotsky to captured power for himself. Then he killed all the members of the Trotsky family. A set or fixed mind succeeds compared to a free thinking mind.
Prof. Sankarankutty: Yes. That is ‘Macbeth Strategy’. There is struggle for power, capture of the power, and then retention of the power. That is the technique.
Dr.Thomas: But now it is difficult to fool people like that because of the media and the resulting instant publicity.
Dr. Babu Ravindran: What actually is bias? What is meant by being biased? How can anybody decide whether some thought or action is biased? What is bias for one may be fair and unbiased for another.
Dr.Sankarankutty: By the quality of thought itself we are all biased. So says J.K.
Dr.Thomas: I found an example yesterday. Our Administrative Officer and Manager were having an argument yesterday on an unimportant matter. I was noticing it quietly. Each vehemently held to his own opinion and went on talking agitatedly without making even a smallest attempt to hear the other point of view.
K.V. Kunhikrishnan: Bias means prejudice. One can hold one’s own view. There is nothing wrong with it. But if he is aware of his own prejudices, and is willing to hear the other point of view, and also willing to change his opinion if he is wrong then he is not biased.
Sankarabkutty: Mantra sounds have significance; it is supposed to open the channels to the Chakras or the vital points in the body. The ancients had found out great truths subjectively and communicated them in forms that others could understand. For example, they knew the steps of evolution of man from the form of fish (animal in water), through the stages of tortoise (animal on water as well as land), pig (animal on land), Man-Animal, Small short man, and then Man. This they told out to others in the form of the story of Dasavathara(Ten Incarnations). The epics and legends are not mere superficial facts of life narrated. But they contain several profound truths. Naked truth cannot be easily exposed. They will be misunderstood and are therefore given in legends. There is an interesting story why Truth is called naked. Truth and Falsehood are sisters. They went together for a bath in the nearby river. Falsehood got out of the river first and seeing the nice, clean and colourful dress of Truth, wore them and left immediately. When Truth came out of the river her dress was not to be found. The tattered, worn out dirty dress of Falsehood was lying on the bank. She would not wear it and therefore had to go naked. Thus formed the expression ‘Naked Truth’. This is an example how myth is developed. When language is difficult and insufficient to express truth, myth develops and comes to the rescue.
Prof. Richard Hay: The bias and prejudice of the dominant holds control. The saying that might is right holds even today. See the result of the Iraq invasion. Tony Blair has the cheek to say in British Parliament that he was right in being a party to it. And the opposition could not counter! Facts do not count. The more powerful always decide what is right for all.
Dr.Thomas: Britain is trying to hold on to their might as long as possible.
Dr. Abdulla: Earlier, spiritual power prevailed over the world; but now material and physical power has supremacy.
Prof. Hay: Compared to the materialist world of thought, there has been clear deterioration on the spiritualist world.
Prof. Sankarankutty: In the evolution scale there has been a time when one who had the power to heal, the medicine man, counted and controlled all others. But later the mighty took over.
Thursday, November 19, 2009
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